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::Consensus in favor of extending the (non-steward/sysadmin) inactivity period to 3 months. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 22:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
::Consensus in favor of extending the (non-steward/sysadmin) inactivity period to 3 months. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 22:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
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Instead of having your access to the admin tools after 1 month goes by without activity, why not just have it be 3 months instead? I'd say that 1 month is a bit too short, and I'm not sure how one month would be enough of a reason. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 13:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Instead of having your access to the admin tools after 1 month goes by without activity, why not just have it be 3 months instead? I'd say that 1 month is a bit too short, and I'm not sure how one month would be enough of a reason. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 13:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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: {{Support}} I like this idea, and can't see any drawbacks to it. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 16:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}} I like this idea, and can't see any drawbacks to it. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 16:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}} I think it should be extended. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 16:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}} I think it should be extended. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 16:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}} Per nom. [[User:I_am_One|I am one]] ([[User_talk:I_am_One|as you are three]]) 23:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}} Per nom. [[User:I am One|I am one]] ([[User talk:I am One|as you are three]]) 23:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}} I absolutely agree with that! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:19, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}} I absolutely agree with that! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:19, 18 April 2022 (UTC)


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:Pinging {{ping|Dmehus|p=}}. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
:Pinging {{ping|Dmehus|p=}}. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
::Can't admins edit the filters themselves? I know that on another wiki that was possible. Just saying. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
::Can't admins edit the filters themselves? I know that on another wiki that was possible. Just saying. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
:::Filters with restricted actions (namely, blocking) can only be edited by Stewards. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
:::Filters with restricted actions (namely, blocking) can only be edited by Stewards. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
:It would actually be <code>page_id != 702</code>, since this is an equality check. Also, it's generally good practice to surround any negation that isn't a single function with parentheses, like so: <code>!('x' in y)</code> —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
:It would actually be <code>page_id != 702</code>, since this is an equality check. Also, it's generally good practice to surround any negation that isn't a single function with parentheses, like so: <code>!('x' in y)</code> —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


== In regards to [[User:Piccadilly|User:Seiyena]]. ==
== In regards to [[User:Piccadilly|User:Seiyena]]. ==
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::This has already been addressed, by another user. I strongly loathe any sort of 'community block' for [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], even marginally good-faith users. Block, CheckUser, rinse, and repeat has been tried, and I'm not keen to go back there, at least not ''yet''. This is a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-managed affair, and I did suggest it might've been ''too soon'' to grant bureaucrat. In any case, I'm going to work on having [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] deploy the Miraheze global abuse filter to mitigate this. I don't believe an indefinite suspension of bureaucrat; I would rather manage this a month at a time. If bureaucrat revocation is required, I'll do that. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
::This has already been addressed, by another user. I strongly loathe any sort of 'community block' for [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], even marginally good-faith users. Block, CheckUser, rinse, and repeat has been tried, and I'm not keen to go back there, at least not ''yet''. This is a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-managed affair, and I did suggest it might've been ''too soon'' to grant bureaucrat. In any case, I'm going to work on having [[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] deploy the Miraheze global abuse filter to mitigate this. I don't believe an indefinite suspension of bureaucrat; I would rather manage this a month at a time. If bureaucrat revocation is required, I'll do that. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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:Noting that the aforementioned abuse filter has been deployed. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
:Noting that the aforementioned abuse filter has been deployed. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 01:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


== Lift protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] ==
== Lift protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] ==
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::{{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/31337|Done, at least temporarily]]}}, [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] et al., chiefly since [[Test Wiki:Interface administrators|interface administrator]] granting and revocation has since been restricted to Stewards for mainly security purposes, but ''do'' note we reserve the right to reinstate [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]] protection for this high impact CSS interface page depending on if [[w:WP:BEANS|BEANSey]] things happen. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
::{{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/31337|Done, at least temporarily]]}}, [[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] et al., chiefly since [[Test Wiki:Interface administrators|interface administrator]] granting and revocation has since been restricted to Stewards for mainly security purposes, but ''do'' note we reserve the right to reinstate [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]] protection for this high impact CSS interface page depending on if [[w:WP:BEANS|BEANSey]] things happen. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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Could the steward-only create protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] be removed? I'm trying to deploy some styles to get the {{tl|mbox}} series of templates properly working. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Could the steward-only create protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] be removed? I'm trying to deploy some styles to get the {{tl|mbox}} series of templates properly working. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 01:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}}. I also thought the other day I was going to work with styles, but it was blocked. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 13:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}}. I also thought the other day I was going to work with styles, but it was blocked. — Regards, [[User:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 13:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}} I think the limitations on the MediaWiki:common page are; must be granted bureaucrat permits [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 09:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
: {{Support}} I think the limitations on the MediaWiki:common page are; must be granted bureaucrat permits [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 09:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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@[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]—Courtesy ping if you have ideas. Thanks. —[[User:3PPYB6|3PPYB6]] ([[User talk:3PPYB6|talk]]) 16:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
@[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]—Courtesy ping if you have ideas. Thanks. —[[User:3PPYB6|3PPYB6]] ([[User talk:3PPYB6|talk]]) 16:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
:This is the result of the filter filtering for the <code><nowiki><br></nowiki></code> tag, which is a very common indicator of spam. This is actually unnecessary (already in another filter), so I've removed it and extended the exempted groups. {{ping|Kazrok4545}} I've temporarily disabled the filter pending clarification on its intent, were you intending to do something akin to [[Special:AbuseFilter/88|filter 88]], or was this intended to be an addition to [[Special:AbuseFilter/52|filter 52]]? —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
:This is the result of the filter filtering for the <code><nowiki><br></nowiki></code> tag, which is a very common indicator of spam. This is actually unnecessary (already in another filter), so I've removed it and extended the exempted groups. {{ping|Kazrok4545}} I've temporarily disabled the filter pending clarification on its intent, were you intending to do something akin to [[Special:AbuseFilter/88|filter 88]], or was this intended to be an addition to [[Special:AbuseFilter/52|filter 52]]? —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
::Sorry, I forgot to switch off this filter. It was created for testing. It is advisable to add these words to filter 52. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 12:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
::Sorry, I forgot to switch off this filter. It was created for testing. It is advisable to add these words to filter 52. — Regards, [[User:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 12:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)


== Rename Account ==
== Rename Account ==
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Could you please rename my account Videojeux4 to HeartsDo, please.
Could you please rename my account Videojeux4 to HeartsDo, please.


(Proof: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:HeartsDo here]) [[User:Videojeux4|Videojeux4]] ([[User talk:Videojeux4|talk]]) 04:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
(Proof: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:HeartsDo here]) [[User:HeartsDo|Videojeux4]] ([[User talk:HeartsDo|talk]]) 04:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
:Pinging {{Ping|Dmehus}} {{Ping|MacFan4000}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 05:51, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
:Pinging {{Ping|Dmehus}} {{Ping|MacFan4000}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 05:51, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:Videojeux4|HeartsDo]], though I don't likely doubt this to be you, would you mind confirming your Test Wiki account from your Miraheze account? Thanks. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:HeartsDo|HeartsDo]], though I don't likely doubt this to be you, would you mind confirming your Test Wiki account from your Miraheze account? Thanks. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
:I know the account to be legit. {{Done}}. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 03:12, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
:I know the account to be legit. {{Done}}. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 03:12, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks! :p [[User:HeartsDo|HeartsDo]] ([[User talk:HeartsDo|talk]]) 16:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks! :p [[User:HeartsDo|HeartsDo]] ([[User talk:HeartsDo|talk]]) 16:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

==Foss==
If you go to the bottom of the page it says the wiki is supported by Foss this makes no sense considering they do not allow wikis in the terms of service it says [[Special:Contributions/107.223.89.68|107.223.89.68]] 19:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
:@107.223.89.68 This should be in the [[Test_Wiki:Community portal|community portal]] and not its talk page. I'll move it for you, though. [[User:I am One|I am one]] ([[User talk:I am One|as you are three]]) 17:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
:Actually, I just remembered that IP users cannot edit the community portal. In order to use the community portal properly, you should create an account. [[User:I am One|I am one]] ([[User talk:I am One|as you are three]]) 17:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)


== Block Request ==
== Block Request ==
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:I see no problem if there are at least two non-steward users who can modify that filter. [[:wikipedia:Oligarchy|Oligarchy]] is not really a nice way to work, especially in wikis. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 17:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
:I see no problem if there are at least two non-steward users who can modify that filter. [[:wikipedia:Oligarchy|Oligarchy]] is not really a nice way to work, especially in wikis. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 17:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
::Currently, filters with restricted actions (i.e. block, rangeblock, and degroup; though the later two aren't enabled at all here) can only be edited by Stewards. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 15:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
::Currently, filters with restricted actions (i.e. block, rangeblock, and degroup; though the later two aren't enabled at all here) can only be edited by Stewards. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 15:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
:::I know. I'm waiting for [[Test Wiki:Community portal/06#Filter #52|this]]. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 20:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
:::I know. I'm waiting for [[Test Wiki:Community portal/06#Filter #52|this]]. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 20:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


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Hi, can I please get my name changed to Bastrop? Thanks! [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi, can I please get my name changed to Bastrop? Thanks! [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


:{{ping|Piccadilly}} Pings will only work if you add your signature in the same edit in which you add the ping. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 13:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|Piccadilly}} Pings will only work if you add your signature in the same edit in which you add the ping. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 13:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)


Now I realize I messed up the ping yet again lol. Trying this again. {{ping|MacFan4000}} or {{ping|Dmehus}} Thanks! [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 08:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Now I realize I messed up the ping yet again lol. Trying this again. {{ping|MacFan4000}} or {{ping|Dmehus}} Thanks! [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 08:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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*{{Support}} I agree with it. <del>Though I don't oppose it, [[#Counter-proposal]] seems bit complicated to me.</del>
*{{Support}} I agree with it. <del>Though I don't oppose it, [[#Counter-proposal]] seems bit complicated to me.</del>
**Still, I'm confused about 1 sentence. "The bot flag '''must not''' be granted by '''non-test administrators''' on Test Wiki permanently". "non-test administrators" means steward, correct? Must '''not''' steward grant permanent bot flag? I'm not good at English, so I may have mistranslated that(I'm terribly sorry if so), but could you recheck that sentence, please?--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 08:00, 2 May 2022 (UTC) <small>Modify. On second thought.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 09:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)</small>
**Still, I'm confused about 1 sentence. "The bot flag '''must not''' be granted by '''non-test administrators''' on Test Wiki permanently". "non-test administrators" means steward, correct? Must '''not''' steward grant permanent bot flag? I'm not good at English, so I may have mistranslated that(I'm terribly sorry if so), but could you recheck that sentence, please?--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 08:00, 2 May 2022 (UTC) <small>Modify. On second thought.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 09:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)</small>
*{{Support}} Per nom. [[User:I_am_One|I am one]] ([[User_talk:I_am_One|as you are three]]) 12:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
*{{Support}} Per nom. [[User:I am One|I am one]] ([[User talk:I am One|as you are three]]) 12:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


==== Neutral/Abstain ====
==== Neutral/Abstain ====
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{{Neutral}} --[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 05:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
{{Neutral}} --[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 05:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)


{{Neutral}} — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 13:12, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
{{Neutral}} — Regards, [[User:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 13:12, 6 May 2022 (UTC)


{{Neutral}} - Although complicated and long winded, I do prefer and agree with [[#Counter-proposal]]. [[User:Sav|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 10:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
{{Neutral}} - Although complicated and long winded, I do prefer and agree with [[#Counter-proposal]]. [[User:Sav|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 10:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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==== Oppose ====
==== Oppose ====
*In [[Test Wiki:Request permissions/Archive10]], you handled request requested by Seiyena twice.
*In [[Test Wiki:Request for permissions/Archive 10]], you handled request requested by Seiyena twice.
**[[Special:PermaLink/22496#Seiyena_2|#Seiyena_2]], you granted her BC despite that I had put that on hold. My reason for putting it on hold is as Trayfel said. If you had checked her permissions log in advance, you could have noticed that it's prohibited by steward. And if you had asked me before, I would have answer the reason.
**[[Special:PermaLink/22496#Seiyena_2|#Seiyena_2]], you granted her BC despite that I had put that on hold. My reason for putting it on hold is as Trayfel said. If you had checked her permissions log in advance, you could have noticed that it's prohibited by steward. And if you had asked me before, I would have answer the reason.
**[[Special:PermaLink/22496#Seiyena_8|#Seiyena_8]], you granted admin again despite steward's prohibition.
**[[Special:PermaLink/22496#Seiyena_8|#Seiyena_8]], you granted admin again despite steward's prohibition.
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*[[User:S871bot]] is the bot account owned by User:想舞花([[Special:Redirect/logid/30040]])
*[[User:S871bot]] is the bot account owned by User:想舞花([[Special:Redirect/logid/30040]])
**[[User:S871]] is also 想舞花's account([[Special:Redirect/31206]])
**[[User:S871]] is also 想舞花's account([[Special:Redirect/31206]])
*At [[Test Wiki:Request permissions#Seiyena]]([[Special:PermaLink/22693#Seiyena|permalink]]), Seiyena requested admin/BC rights.
*At [[Test Wiki:Request for permissions#Seiyena]]([[Special:PermaLink/22693#Seiyena|permalink]]), Seiyena requested admin/BC rights.
**[[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] put that on hold to get steward's approval.
**[[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] put that on hold to get steward's approval.
**I found Dmehus(Miraheze) said "no objection" and proposed to shorten holding time to 48 hours.
**I found Dmehus(Miraheze) said "no objection" and proposed to shorten holding time to 48 hours.
**想舞花 granted admin before that time expires.
**想舞花 granted admin before that time expires.
*Only 10 minutes after that, 想舞花 archived the section([[Special:PageHistory/Test Wiki:Request permissions/Archive11|Archive11]]).
*Only 10 minutes after that, 想舞花 archived the section([[Special:PageHistory/Test Wiki:Request for permissions/Archive 11|Archive11]]).
**Seiyena had question, but she asked that on archive page.
**Seiyena had question, but she asked that on archive page.
*I felt he/she archived too early given that the matter is still ongoing and controversial. So I reverted archiving and explained that at [[User talk:想舞花]]([[Special:Diff/22648]]).
*I felt he/she archived too early given that the matter is still ongoing and controversial. So I reverted archiving and explained that at [[User talk:想舞花]]([[Special:Diff/22648]]).
*想舞花 made same edits using S871bot(it had bot flag).
*想舞花 made same edits using S871bot(it had bot flag).
*I believed that this is clearly abuse of bot account. About a month ago, [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] told him not to make non-bot actions([[Special:PermaLink/21783#Your usage of the bot flag]]). So I [[Special:Redirect/logid/special:Redirect/logid/32111|revoked bot's permission]] and [[special:Redirect/logid/32110|blocked the bot]](with autoblock disabled). I notified that on '''[[User talk:想舞花]]''' and asked him/her not to revert the action([[Special:Diff/22652/22656]]).
*I believed that this is clearly abuse of bot account. About a month ago, [[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] told him not to make non-bot actions([[Special:PermaLink/21783#Your usage of the bot flag]]). So I [[Special:Redirect/logid/special:Redirect/logid/32111|revoked bot's permission]] and [[special:Redirect/logid/32110|blocked the bot]](with autoblock disabled). I notified that on '''[[User talk:想舞花]]''' and asked him/her not to revert the action([[Special:Diff/22652/22656]]).
*想舞花 refused to explain reasons for bot account's action([[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP]], [[Special:PermaLink/22696#i will not abuse my bot.]])
*想舞花 refused to explain reasons for bot account's action([[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP]], [[Special:PermaLink/22696#i will not abuse my bot.]])
*想舞花 removed [[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP|#Archiving RFP]] section saying "不回答任何关于机器人的问题,如果你有机器人的问题,请发送信息给User:S871,谢谢!", removed blocking for bot and regranted admin, bot rights saying "Situation resolved".
*想舞花 removed [[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP|#Archiving RFP]] section saying "不回答任何关于机器人的问题,如果你有机器人的问题,请发送信息给User:S871,谢谢!", removed blocking for bot and regranted admin, bot rights saying "Situation resolved".
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:Moved. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 14:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
:Moved. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 14:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
: Hi, {{ping|Piccadilly}}! To do this, you need to write a separate module, since I do not know the parameter at the software level. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 08:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
: Hi, {{ping|Piccadilly}}! To do this, you need to write a separate module, since I do not know the parameter at the software level. — Regards, [[User:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 08:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


== Skins and mobile view problem ==
== Skins and mobile view problem ==
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== Rename account ==
== Rename account ==


I changed my name to "Chrs" over on Miraheze a while ago, could it please be renamed here too? —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 18:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
I changed my name to "Chrs" over on Miraheze a while ago, could it please be renamed here too? —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 18:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
: {{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 00:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
: {{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 00:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)



Latest revision as of 00:31, 16 May 2024

Mind if I suggest something?

Should the policy be updated now?

Seeing as this has majority support, should one of the bureaucrats update the policy to reflect the new time? Or do we have to get a Steward's approval for policy changes? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 14:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

CheckUser request

These 2 users are blocked intefinite on Chinese Wikipedia and locked on Wikimedia foundation and this action is suspected. Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 16:37, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

@想舞花: Could you explain the reason for this action please? AlPaD (talk) 20:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
@AlPaD: I mean: give him permissions other than admin.--想舞花 (talk) 23:19, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
@想舞花: Thanks for reply! AlPaD (talk) 07:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
Maybe it's their test account. Also, I don't know why being indefinitely blocked on Wikipedia or globally locked on Wikimedia matters here. My Wikimedia account is globally locked and blocked indefinitely on English Wikipedia, but as long as people behave here, I think they should be welcome here. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 20:16, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
@Piccadilly: I don't think is a test account because he had requested administrator rights, while the test accounts don't need to be requested. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a sockpuppet issue. It's better steward see the issue and let our know if he needs CheckUser. AlPaD (talk) 07:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I saw it again and maybe I was wrong. In the Chinese Wikipedia there are daily blocked for sockpuppetry and 想舞花 was banned from the Wikimedia foundation while 七海娜娜米 wasn't. I know that even if someone is blocked on Wikimedia they can contribute here and sorry if I was wrong. AlPaD (talk) 20:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
七海娜娜米2b and 七海娜娜米3b, are technically identical, 想舞花 is not connected to the other two, but the CU results were interesting. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 14:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
@MacFan4000: Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 17:04, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm block they account.--想舞花 (talk) 05:56, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
They had been blocked with autoblock disabled. I've modified block setting and enabled autoblock.--Q8j (talk) 07:32, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/52

The third line should have been & !page_id == 702. Currently it's checking for spam edits on TW:RFP... NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 10:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Pinging @Dmehus. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Can't admins edit the filters themselves? I know that on another wiki that was possible. Just saying. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Filters with restricted actions (namely, blocking) can only be edited by Stewards. — Arcversin (talk) 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
It would actually be page_id != 702, since this is an equality check. Also, it's generally good practice to surround any negation that isn't a single function with parentheses, like so: !('x' in y) — Arcversin (talk) 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

In regards to User:Seiyena.

Noting that the aforementioned abuse filter has been deployed. — Arcversin (talk) 01:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Lift protection on MediaWiki:Common.css

Filter 89

Looks like we're getting a few false positives here; I fixed a typo on an AbuseFilter warning and apparently I was disallowed. See my abuse log for reference.

@Kazrok4545—Courtesy ping if you have ideas. Thanks. —3PPYB6 (talk) 16:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

This is the result of the filter filtering for the <br> tag, which is a very common indicator of spam. This is actually unnecessary (already in another filter), so I've removed it and extended the exempted groups. @Kazrok4545: I've temporarily disabled the filter pending clarification on its intent, were you intending to do something akin to filter 88, or was this intended to be an addition to filter 52? — Arcversin (talk) 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to switch off this filter. It was created for testing. It is advisable to add these words to filter 52. — Regards, Kazrok4545 Talk 12:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Rename Account

Hi,

Could you please rename my account Videojeux4 to HeartsDo, please.

(Proof: here) Videojeux4 (talk) 04:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Pinging @Dmehus: @MacFan4000: AlPaD (talk) 05:51, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
HeartsDo, though I don't likely doubt this to be you, would you mind confirming your Test Wiki account from your Miraheze account? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 02:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
I know the account to be legit.  Done. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 03:12, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! :p HeartsDo (talk) 16:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Foss

If you go to the bottom of the page it says the wiki is supported by Foss this makes no sense considering they do not allow wikis in the terms of service it says 107.223.89.68 19:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@107.223.89.68 This should be in the community portal and not its talk page. I'll move it for you, though. I am one (as you are three) 17:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Actually, I just remembered that IP users cannot edit the community portal. In order to use the community portal properly, you should create an account. I am one (as you are three) 17:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Block Request

Hello, I think it would be good if I took a break from here for a bit. Could someone please block me for a few days, like maybe until May 1? Thank you very much. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 09:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Piccadilly: I am willing to give out the block, on condition that:
  1. You agree not to evade your block using sockpuppets.
  2. You agree to be hard-blocked (i.e. with autoblock enabled).
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 10:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
I agree to both conditions.Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 11:22, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
You have now been blocked. Enjoy your break. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 11:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Any thoughts on this proposed change to filter 88?

Right now filter 88 is set to simply disallow the action that is trying to be performed. Given the number of recent triggers to that filter, maybe that should be changed to instead issue a 3-day block any time the filter is triggered as well as remove from any special groups like admin or bureaucrat. I think that might make it more effective at its job and also not cause it to be triggered so much. This proposal would need a steward's help to implement if it's approved since it involves adding restricted actions. But I do think this might be beneficial to the target of the filter.

Any thoughts on whether this is a good or bad idea? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 12:50, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

I see no problem if there are at least two non-steward users who can modify that filter. Oligarchy is not really a nice way to work, especially in wikis. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 17:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Currently, filters with restricted actions (i.e. block, rangeblock, and degroup; though the later two aren't enabled at all here) can only be edited by Stewards. — Arcversin (talk) 15:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
I know. I'm waiting for this. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 20:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Name Change Request

Hi, can I please get my name changed to Bastrop? Thanks! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

@Piccadilly: Pings will only work if you add your signature in the same edit in which you add the ping. — Arcversin (talk) 13:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Now I realize I messed up the ping yet again lol. Trying this again. @MacFan4000: or @Dmehus: Thanks! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 08:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi @MacFan4000: and @Dmehus:, I would still like my name changed to Bastrop, if possible. Thank you. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 13:17, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposed amendment to Test Wiki:Bots

Stewardship request

What does abuse filter throttle mean

Hi, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, I didn't know where else to put a general question like this. I recently got a notification that my abuse filter (https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/85) was throttled. What does that mean and does it need to be remedied in any way? Thanks! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 13:20, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Filter closed, thanks! LisafBia (talk) 14:45, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Request for steward's action regarding 想舞花

I'm requesting stewards(@MacFan4000, Dmehus) to;

  1. Endorse blocking, permission revocation
  2. Revoke 想舞花(and S871)'s permissions
Reason for request

Abuse of bot account, and 想舞花's permission. Talk-reject.

Facts

--Q8j (talk) 17:46, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Maybe just blocking the bot account and disallowing the use of it for awhile would help. I don't think the main account should be sanctioned yet. If they were to have issues when they were allowed to use the bot account again, then perhaps the block for the main account would be warranted.

(Sorry if I'm butting into something that's none of my business, I just wanted to offer my opinion on this) Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

bot question should sent to this Account's talk page , Don't send to Main account's Talk Page.--S871 (talk) 18:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

statement by 想舞花

It is found that an IP is not the IP that my account and the robot commonly use to log in, it is hacked, and now the account has been restored. so i say Situation resolved. --想舞花 (talk) 17:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

The person who hacked the account, he and I live in the same community.--想舞花 (talk) 18:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

My internet service provider is China Telecom, it can be accurate to the devices within the same wifi, his device is a laptop, mine is a desktop, I saw him quit using my robot account in reality normal thing. My bot account has been hacked, it's none of your business.--想舞花 (talk) 18:18, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Just noting that 想舞花 has since retired from this wiki. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:16, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Users are now relocked. CheckUser evidence confirms abuse of multiple accounts. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 14:58, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, this mess is finally resolved. I've noticed this user abusing admin tools, having wheel wars with others, etc., but not brave enough to call for urgent action here. @Q8j: You are really righteous and brave. --Pavlov2~alternative (talk) 15:08, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Stewardship request for Q8j

  • Thanks to everyone involved in this election.--Q8j (talk) 07:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

How do you modify the block reasons drop-down menu?

I wanted to move the "Steward action" reason to the section of reasons to only be used by stewards, as I think it belongs there. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 23:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Moved. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 14:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, @Piccadilly:! To do this, you need to write a separate module, since I do not know the parameter at the software level. — Regards, Kazrok4545 Talk 08:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Skins and mobile view problem

Hello! I installed timeless skin in my preferences, but it didn't change the skin on the mobile screen. Why? Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 10:26, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

I will look into this. The mobile skin is handled by the MobileFrontend extension. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 12:08, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, I requested new skin. AlPaD (talk) 14:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Fixed, in newer versions of the extension, the way to set the default mobile skin was changed. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 23:20, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 04:26, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Deletion Request

Hi, can someone please delete my sandbox? I don't need it any more. Thank you! Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 10:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 22:18, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Add CentralAuth

Hi, I think we can add the CentralAuth extension. Some permissions may be restricted. LisafBia (talk) 19:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Wouldn't that only be useful for a network of wikis, that way someone could see which wikis someone else had edited? How would it be useful for just one wiki like this one? (I'm not against this, I'm just curious as to how it would be useful.) Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Seiyena, to be used only for testing CentralAuth tools LisafBia (talk) 21:35, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
I didn't know you could test anything there. That would be cool. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
This cannot be done. CentralAuth is not meant for use on a single wiki and is very difficult to get running. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 00:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
I concur with MacFan4000. While it's an interesting extension, Test Wiki is a single wiki so would not make sense to install here. Dmehus (talk) 07:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Rename account

I changed my name to "Chrs" over on Miraheze a while ago, could it please be renamed here too? — Arcversin (talk) 18:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 00:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

How do you edit the header on the community portal?

I need to add this link to the newest archive to the header. Thanks!

https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Test_Wiki:Community_portal/07

Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 17:19, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 17:29, 21 June 2022 (UTC)