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My talk page archive: https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/User_talk:Seiyena/Archive

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thank for your reverts and deletions of blatant vandalism from 162.221.168.71, a cross-platform, cross-wiki long-term abuse case. Based on my initial Steward review of the situation, there was no further abuse, which is good, and you, DarkMatterMan4500, and LisafBia all handled the situation great. Dmehus (talk) 08:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

About the most recent filter 88 hit

Just making a note here that I definitely will not go back to using bad words or slurs here like I used to do. I actually didn't think that would be stopped by the filter; I intended to make that page and then delete it. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 12:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I’m just questioning why you did it anyway, even if it didn’t trigger, someone would notice and then fix filter 88. , Can you provide a reason as to why you tried to trigger it anyway. Zippybonzo (talk) 21:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Because I wanted to make a test page to delete, and at the time I was thiniking what I posted about something in real life. Since it wasn't insulting or name-calling, I didn't see anything wrong with using that on the test page. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Any explanation on the triggering on the 25th? Also, I put the request on hold until I get some opinions. (ping on reply)Zippybonzo (talk) 21:47, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

The one with the random letters was me doing something silly. Like I said above, I thought it wasn't too significant because I wasn't insulting anyone or using slurs. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:57, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok, I’m not in a position to answer the request without some other crat opinions, but I would probably lean towards granting if you don’t intentionally do something that you know triggers filter 88. I am pleased about there slurs stopping and I think you migh end up waiting another week just because the other crats want that. But I am quite lenient, also, are you FirstNoelle on PublicTestWiki, just because someone on Qualitypedia or whatever it’s called blocked FirstNoelle as a sock of your account there. And given most of the users here are also on that wiki, that might change things. Zippybonzo (talk) 22:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

No, I am not FirstNoelle on any wiki. But I am ApexAgunomu. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 22:10, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for telling me this stuff. Zippybonzo (talk) 22:14, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 22:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Your recent actions

May I ask why you felt it appropriate to upload pornographic content to TestWiki? — Arcversin (talk) 23:22, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I had that screenshot lying on my phone and since I intended to delete the image immediately after uploading it, I never thought anyone would see it. Thus, I thought there was no harm if I did that. But I won't upload any more pictures like that. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 23:27, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Why did you upload it in the first place? — Arcversin (talk) 23:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I was testing image uploading and since I didn't have a lot of time, I chose the first image I came across. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 23:41, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Seiyena. Your actions are inexcusable. Considering the countless chances we have given you, just for you to abuse them, I think it is fair to say you are no longer welcome to the Test Wiki's sysop permissions. However, if a Steward disagrees with this, then of course you can create a new RFP. There is no excuse to upload pornographic content to the TestWiki under any circumstances. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 00:29, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I admit it was not one of my best decisions. However, I still think that since I deleted it right afterwards, it didn't seem too serious. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Restored reasonable and limited use of your user talk page

Hi Seiyena,

Apologies for the delayed response. I have restored your use of your user talk page on your main account, to discourage continued illegitimate sockpuppetry, as well as reasonable use of Special:EmailUser, since you said you had issues e-mailing staff[at]testwiki.wiki directly. Given your recent sockpuppetry, I would strongly suggest waiting at least two weeks before appealing. When you appeal, I would suggest you clearly:

1. Articulate what you have done wrong and what's frustrated fellow community members (including the illegitimate sockpuppetry, of course, but what are the main reasons)
2. How you aim to improve and what control measures you require
3. What you propose in terms of progressive discipline for contraventions

Thanks,
Dmehus (talk) 02:29, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for allowing me to edit my talk page again. I will be thinking about the points you brought up and make an unblock appeal in a couple of weeks, which I hope I can use to show that I am more mature now. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 02:37, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, that sounds good. Also, please avoid Miraheze for now. Let's work on reintegrating here first, then after the community here is satisfied, they can recommend your re-entry to Miraheze. :) Dmehus (talk) 03:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

All right, I'll stop trying to evade my lock on Miraheze and focus on actually changing my behavior so I can be welcome back there someday. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 04:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Things to note here

1. Issues
-Bad words and evading the abuse filter
-Continuing to repeat bad behavior even after saying I'd stop
-Editing filter 88 after being told to leave it alone
-I also uploaded an inappropiate image here as a test and even though I deleted it right afterwards, I never should have uploaded that kind of image to begin with
-Asking for permissions when I wasn't supposed to

2. I plan to improve my actions here by only testing on pages that are either in my userspace or marked clearly as test pages. I will not evade filter 88 in any shape or form, and I will acknowledge any correctiona or advice given, and follow that advice. And I will not repeat any of my misbehavior from before.

As for any control measures I think are needed, the only one I can think of right now is keeping filter 88 active, with perhaps the modification that I mention below.

A note about filter 88: Right now filter 88 is set to simply disallow the action that is trying to be performed. Maybe that should be changed to instead issue a 3-day block any time the filter is triggered as well as remove from any special groups like admin or bureaucrat. I think that might make it more effective at its job and also not cause it to be triggered. This proposal would need a steward's help to implement if it's approved since it involves adding restricted actions. But I do think this might be beneficial to the target of the filter.

3. Proposed handling of further issues here
-First Instance: Warning (plus adding to the abuse filter if needed)
-Second Instance: Removal of Permissions for 2 weeks (which may be enforced with a block from the Request Permissions page)
-Third Instance: Block (either timed or indefinite, will leave to discretion, but preferably with talk page access on)

P.S. If anyone else has any comments on what I'm writing here, feel free to add.

Question About My Appeal

@Dmehus:, when I do appeal my block, can any admin or bureaucrat review and take action on the appeal, or can only a steward do that? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Seiyena, Thank you for your response, and thank you for making some notes above. That shows positive progress, should help in your appeal. With regard to your appeal, in addition to noting your problems, I strongly recommend you include easy and swift consequences that could be taken, potentially by bureaucrats and stewards alike. For example, if a problematic word is not in the abuse filter, I would recommend suggesting any bureaucrat to strengthen the abuse filter as well as provide you with an obligatory warning. If you repeat similar problematic behaviour, a one- or two-week desysop should follow. A third instance would be followed by a one- or two-week block, and a fourth instance would result in a Steward re-imposing a three-month or indefinite sitewide block, to last for a minimum of three months. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:08, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply and tips, Dmehus. I do like the steps you propose, but I know one issue people have had is that I've had multiple chances here, and I guess they would like that to change, so that's why I had said "one warning, then indefinite block" above. But I think what you propose is reasonable, so I'll work that into my plan above. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:08, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Also, @Dmehus:, if I am unblocked, would there be any rules on when I can ask for permissions here again? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:27, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Name Change Request

Hi @Dmehus:, is there any chance I could be renamed to ApexAgunomu please? Thanks! Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:28, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Block Appeal

Hi Mac, I understand your issue with my evasion of my lock on Miraheze, and I will not repeat that any more. However, I don't recall any times I've been inappropiate on IRC. I lurk in the miraheze overflow channel along with a few others, but I almost never say anything in those channels. And I am almost certain I have never said anything inappropiate or spammed anywhere on IRC. I just wanted to mention that because I honestly don't know what inappropiate IRC conduct you're talking about. But nevertheless, I will wait awhile longer before trying to get unblicked here again. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 15:48, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

@Seiyena: I suggest you quit trying to appeal your block. As Mac stated, you will not be unblocked anytime soon. Give it a rest please. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 10:33, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

I won't ask to be unblocked for a while, and I'll try to improve my behavior in other places so I show that I can be trusted here. I just have one question: how long should I wait before asking to be unblocked? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:22, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Don't ask at all. When the Stewards and Bureaucrats feel you are ready to rejoin the community, you will be notified. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 13:53, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Could someone please look at my appeal?

I apologize if I sound impatient, but if possible I would really appreciate it if someone could review my appeal and either accept or decline it. I don't know if only a steward can act on this appeal, but since both stewards are mostly inactive here, I don't think it would hurt if maybe another active admin or bureaucrat makes the call on whether to unblock me or not. I will accept and abide by any conditions or restrictions that might be put in place. Thanks. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 02:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Talk page access restored

Hello Apex/Seiyena,

I have enabled your ability to edit your talk page. This page may be used for appeals only and any abuse will result in an immediate removal of TPA. X (talk) 16:41, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Newest Block Appeal

Hello, I would like to appeal my block here again, as more time has passed since my last appeal and in that time I have not evaded my Miraheze ban and I haven't been on IRC at all (not that I remember ever being inappropiate there but I just wanted to note that lately I haven't even been online there). In addition, I have been active on another test wiki called For-Test Wiki where I have been very careful to obey all the rules here. I would like to be unblocked here so I can show that I have changed, and I hope that by continued good behavior on various wikis, it will eventually help me in re-entering Miraheze. Thank you for your consideration. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 22:49, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

As a bureaucrat on For-Test Wiki, I can say that Seiyena/Apex has behaved well since their unblock, and is truly a different person since their block. They have made many past wrongs, but I feel they have changed. I will not remove this block because it is a steward action, but I strongly recommend that this user is unblocked. I would recommend only allowing them access obtain admin rights (not higher) until they are more trusted here. @MacFan4000: and @Dmehus: X (talk) 22:56, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

@X: @Seiyena: - Seiyena cannot appeal until Mac and/or Dmehus decides she can. Any future appeal, as previously stated, shall be denied. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 09:05, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

In a comment above, Sav, you mentioned that when the stewards or bureaucrats felt I was ready, I can appeal. I can't find anything that says only a steward can decide when I can appeal. Since a bureaucrat, X, thought I was ready, I think this appeal is valid, though I do understand that a steward does need to give permission before I can be unblocked. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 11:40, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

I'd also like to note that nowhere was it said that permission for an appeal to simply be posted was required by a Steward, TPA was recently regranted due to the minimal chance of disruption with it, and a genuine interest in improving and appealing. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:51, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

• There’s no “clear” stewards decision that “Appealing requires stewards authorization”. MacFan4000’s TPA revocation was lifted by Dmehus, and latest TPA revocation was set by Drummingman, who is bureaucrat. Though I think X should have had discussion to whether to lift TPA block in Drummingman‘s talk or community portal, X’s decision wasn’t clear violation on rules here.
• Considering her behavior before blocking, her words means almost nothing to me. She did lie, break promises/policies, not just once. Regarding “For-test wiki”, if she has behaved good enough to believe she can do that here then I can consider, but as I don’t know what that is and I couldn’t find it, I can’t take it in consideration. Should anyone provide link, I’ll take a look.
• As such, I neither support nor oppose this appeal for now. But I strongly believe Dmehus shouldn’t decide this without community consensus(cf.w:WP:INVOLVED). If Dmehus do that and Seiyena causes trouble again, I may hold his accountable.—-Q8j (talk) 07:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. For your convenience, here is a link to For-Test Wiki. http://fortestwiki.myht.org/index.php/Main_Page Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 07:56, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

I am not a steward, but as a bureaucrat and the one who allowed your TPA, I am declining this request. I am an active user on Miraheze where I have just seen Apex/Seiyena evade their ban twice. This shows they haven’t changed and are unable to be trusted here again. I am not revoking TPA quite yet in case the user has some response to the accusations that needs to be heard. If this talk page is abuse, I will revoke access to it immediately. Seyiena, I honestly thought you had changed, but your block evasion and abuse on Miraheze shows me you haven’t. X (talk) 01:02, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I can honestly say that I have not evaded my block on Miraheze for several months (last time in January). I really am trying to change my behavior on wikis. I don't know what you saw that makes you think I'm evading my Miraheze lock again but I promise that I'm not the one doing those things. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)