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:Honestly, I think that we should only do the two main variants of Chinese (Traditional and Simplified). Regional dialects complicate things.. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
:Honestly, I think that we should only do the two main variants of Chinese (Traditional and Simplified). Regional dialects complicate things.. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::I lightly and honestly will {{Oppose|oppose}} reducing the variants of Chinese. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 21:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC) |
::I lightly and honestly will {{Oppose|oppose}} reducing the variants of Chinese. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 21:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::For what reason? Regional dialects can be broken down into the two main dialects of Chinese. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC) |
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UserRightsManager
The name of the userRightsManager gadget has changed, so some users may have the tick turned off. It may be necessary to re-enable it in the preferences. LisafBia (talk) 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- We encourage bureaucrats, if you have last edited before June 2024, to re-enable its preferences. This user
supports this decision. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 20:41, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Inactivity for AFAs
Should inactivity for AFAs be measured in regular terms, or should it be measured by the last time an abuse filter was modified by an AFA, or perhaps even the last time a filter was modified to use a restricted action or a restricted filter was modified? I'd like to know consensus on this before I go and modify the inactivity policy. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would choose when the last time some AFA modified a regular abuse filter (without restricted actions). Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 02:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- We don't have a bot for it yet? That checks for inactivity? Justman10000 (talk) 16:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nope. It's a manual process. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Would be at least 3 months at least I can suggest. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 12:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nope. It's a manual process. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Suppression Reports
Not sure if this was ever officially announced, but you can go to Special:Report/REVID to report a revision that needs suppressed. X (talk + contribs) 21:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- When I installed the extension, I announced it on Discord, but never made an announcement here. *facepalm* Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- *sigh* *ahem* I agree on this feature. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 21:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- You’re fine, no problem! X (talk + contribs) 21:07, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's also included in the newsletter :) The AP (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Welcoming users
We should welcome a newly-registered user when they make their first edit. Not before, but after. Tsukushi (talk) 01:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Interface administrator
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
- Due to a lack of work and trust in the community, no, or at least only extremely few, non-test edits on my part are to be expected Justman10000 (talk) 17:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Since there is nothing more for me to do here, I would like to be a interface administrator... I would mainly take care of the gadgets, adding or removing scripts (if desired) there and translating them... Since I seem to have plenty of time until candidate as steward/system administrator, I would at least to do this!
As I said, without this I would have nothing more to do here! And we don't want me to just sit here and wait Justman10000 (talk) 08:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not a steward but this attitude isn’t encouraging to me. I don’t have confidence that you will be a suitable IA, mainly due to WP:CIR. Do you have any previous work in this area? X (talk + contribs) 02:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- As I said, I would mainly manage the gadgets... Justman10000 (talk) 08:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- IA is a sensitive right, in the hands of people who don't know what they are doing, it can even be dangerous. Can you convince me that you know what you are doing and have experience with the interface? Drummingman (talk) 09:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I've already looked into the configuration syntax of the gadget extension! If necessary, I'll just look in the MediaWiki documentation Justman10000 (talk) 09:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Drummingman There? Justman10000 (talk) 06:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- What coding languages do you know? Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 06:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's still all about the gadgets, so I wouldn't need any coding experience! I would mainly import scripts from other wikis, tidy up the gadgets and translate them Justman10000 (talk) 06:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Interface Administrator requires coding knowledge. So, for me, this is an
Oppose. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 07:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I said I didn't need it! I would only manage gadgets! And if one were finally able to give me a chance, I could prove it too... Justman10000 (talk) 07:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- So how you plan to manage gadgets without coding experience? The AP (talk) 11:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't get what one is getting at? Where do I need coding experience for this:
Selective Rollback[ResourceLoader|rights=rollback]|Selective Rollback.jsJustman10000 (talk) 12:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)- @Justman10000 That's just MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition and you said "
mainly import scripts from other wikis,
", and how do you plan to make scripts compatible to our wiki. The AP (talk) 13:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)- No need to! Practically every script that I use here in my common.js is also compatible with this wiki! I just don't import the rest! I would possibly find more! I would test each script first, however Justman10000 (talk) 14:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Now having experience as an Iinterface admin I don’t trust him too much.@Justman1000: Now having experience as an Interface admin I don’t trust you too much. And in addition if you do not know any coding language this will be mission hard.Could you give me a mini JS script to say hello?(you should at least know this to be interface admin)DodoMan (talk) 17:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- No need to! Practically every script that I use here in my common.js is also compatible with this wiki! I just don't import the rest! I would possibly find more! I would test each script first, however Justman10000 (talk) 14:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Justman10000 That's just MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition and you said "
- So how you plan to manage gadgets without coding experience? The AP (talk) 11:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I said I didn't need it! I would only manage gadgets! And if one were finally able to give me a chance, I could prove it too... Justman10000 (talk) 07:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Interface Administrator requires coding knowledge. So, for me, this is an
- It's still all about the gadgets, so I wouldn't need any coding experience! I would mainly import scripts from other wikis, tidy up the gadgets and translate them Justman10000 (talk) 06:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- What coding languages do you know? Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 06:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- IA is a sensitive right, in the hands of people who don't know what they are doing, it can even be dangerous. Can you convince me that you know what you are doing and have experience with the interface? Drummingman (talk) 09:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- As I said, I would mainly manage the gadgets... Justman10000 (talk) 08:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, but this
will not be done for the time being, due to Drummimgman's and the various IAs' discomfort. Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Do I actually speak Turkish? Or against a wall? Without these permissions I have nothing more to do here! Is that so difficult to understand? I'm getting really fed up! No one is able to give me a chance! Justman10000 (talk) 19:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Besides, you said I should convince YOU? So what does that have to do with the other IAs? Justman10000 (talk) 23:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- As a Steward, I am a community representative. I cannot ignore IA or any community thoughts, especially on a topic posted here. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see... But as already mentioned, without the said permissions... Justman10000 (talk) 00:12, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to assign these at least temporarily? Justman10000 (talk) 00:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I will consider a 3 day trial, so long as you agree stick to importing and making gadgets. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Justman10000 (talk) 01:07, 13 July 2024 (UTC)- @Justarandomamerican There? Justman10000 (talk) 14:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Upon further inspection, it appears that you do not have a sufficient grasp on the purpose of the IA right. At Test Wiki, when gadgets are imported, a human interface administrator has to both import them and use their coding knowledge to tailor them to our wiki, as the majority of gadgets are designed for massive wiki (farms). I am also uncomfortable with your seemingly uncivil attitude. As such, this is not done, and likely will not be done for the foreseeable future. Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- We still have 6-8 months until I can candidate for stewardship! I have explained many times that without these permissions I would have nothing to do here, and scripts that I would import would also work here! But I seem to be talking to a wall! If one is permanently not trusted by anyone, one should not be wondering if this person shows an uncivil attitude!
- And believe me, I'm still holding myself back significantly Justman10000 (talk) 17:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Upon further inspection, it appears that you do not have a sufficient grasp on the purpose of the IA right. At Test Wiki, when gadgets are imported, a human interface administrator has to both import them and use their coding knowledge to tailor them to our wiki, as the majority of gadgets are designed for massive wiki (farms). I am also uncomfortable with your seemingly uncivil attitude. As such,
- I will consider a 3 day trial, so long as you agree stick to importing and making gadgets. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- As a Steward, I am a community representative. I cannot ignore IA or any community thoughts, especially on a topic posted here. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
Translations into Chinese
Hi. I've been doing some translations lately and was wondering which variant of Chinese to translate to. Currently most pages are translated into regional dialects, such as zh-cn and zh-tw. What I think would be better is to translate only into zh-hans (simplified Chinese) and zh-hant (traditional Chinese) in order to reduce redundancy, as all Chinese dialects use one of the two character systems. Any thoughts? '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well I think you should translate into the more popular dialect The AP (talk) 12:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, I think that we should only do the two main variants of Chinese (Traditional and Simplified). Regional dialects complicate things.. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I lightly and honestly will oppose reducing the variants of Chinese. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 21:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- For what reason? Regional dialects can be broken down into the two main dialects of Chinese. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I lightly and honestly will